Posts Tagged ‘Tithing’
WSJ on Tithing
The Wall Street Journal has just published a decent article on the fight against the tithing heresy, and it’s scary how similar my own story is to that of one of the believers in the article:
When he objected to his church’s instructions to tithe, Kirk Cesaretti took it up with the church leaders. In response, he received a letter from the pastor and elders of Hydesville Community Church in Hydesville, Calif. “At this time, we believe your concerns do not warrant any change in our church policy or positions,” the letter read.
The letter closed with a verse from Hebrews 13:17: “Obey your leaders, and submit to them; for they keep watch over your souls; as those who will give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you.”
Mr. Cesaretti, an engineer in Fortuna, Calif., says he took the letter to mean he was no longer welcome at the church. Hydesville’s senior pastor, Michael Delamarian III, says he believes “the more you give the more you’re going to be blessed.” He says he did not bar Mr. Cesaretti from the church.
There’s a lot of passive-aggressive manipulation happening on the part of these pastors toward the flocks under their care. The article also mentions the practice of pastors making applicants sign a document essentially vowing to tithe. Are there so few people who understand that inclusion in the visible expression of the Body of Christ is not something to be held for ransom? My heart breaks for the people who have turned (or rather, been turned) away from Christ on account of grinning, greedy wolves like this at the pulpit.
So yeah, if you were wondering… the wound’s still a bit fresh.
Why I Left Chesapeake Community Church in Joppa, MD
Nicole and I have left Chesapeake Community Church, and some of our friends have asked why. Considering the circumstances surrounding our leaving (and the confusion some friends have expressed regarding it) I’ve decided to address the matter here.
You see, I’ve been in discussions with the pastors (regarding tithing) since our pre-membership interview with Jason Reyes (soon to be the new senior pastor of Covenant of Grace Church in Akron, OH). Sadly, they didn’t bother to even try to answer my questions until they found out that I had posted my thoughts on the tithe here at my blog. Even then, I was met with a general unwillingness to discuss my questions and concerns; rather, the conversation was continually focused on challenging my lack of trust in and respect for them. They couldn’t understand how my trust was largely dependent on their actions and approaches to my questions. You see, I did trust them when I joined Chesapeake in November of 2005. It was only after months of evading and ignoring my questions that I began to get exasperated with them. In the meantime, other things appeared on the radar that only added to my unease and distrust:
- The pastors paid themselves hundreds of thousands of dollars in 2006 (according to their own financial statement), while giving roughly $18,000 as “benevolence.” When asked about this, their response was that the issued Statement was not an accurate reflection of their financial activity.
- The pastors refused to support from the general fund–or even to collect a “special offering” for–a family in the congregation with known serious financial needs. Meanwhile, they collected a special offering to cover moving expenses for two pastors.
- Jim Cannon (the senior pastor) personally told me in front of Jason Reyes and a Care Group leader that his preference was for my membership status to be reevaluated should I choose not to tithe to him. Later, to illustrate his rationale for this, he drew parallels with a wife not trusting her husband to handle their money. But when I pointed out that I wouldn’t/shouldn’t/couldn’t Biblically divorce my wife over such a matter, his response was that a church membership wasn’t like a marriage.
- Jim also told me that in his study of the tithe, he had considered no extra-biblical writings on the subject of tithing penned before the Protestant Reformation. Thus, all early “Church Fathers” epistles, the Didache, Josephus’ writings, and any other works which could have shed first-hand light on how the early church viewed tithing… were ignored.
- Jim’s response was to call me a “freeloader” and claim that I had “integrity issues” when I told the pastors that not giving to Chesapeake was a matter of conscience: they had collected over $850,000 last year with, as I said before, only $18,000 (2.5%) going to those in need. (I took the money I would have given them, and instead gave it to organizations like Compassion International and Blood:Water Mission.)
And in the midst of all this, the pastors tried to shut down an evangelistic effort from a Godly man in the congregation—to spend time with some other Christian men in a pub, where they could interact with people on “neutral territory” and begin to develop relationships with them. The pastors also forbade this man to pass out copies of a Mark Driscoll book to his Christian friends until Jim had approved it, and they almost banned the men in our Care Group from going on a camping trip they were organizing. Why? Because they wouldn’t get back in time for the Sunday morning service.
From what I’ve seen, Sovereign Grace Church in Joppa, MD (their new name, as of September 12th) isn’t a local church. It really bears far more resemblance to a cult:
- The leaders are domineering and in some areas tyrannical;
- they have tried in numerous ways to psychologically manipulate the congregation;
- they demand trust rather than desiring to show themselves worthy of it;
- they are frightened of “their” people being exposed to “non-approved” books and ideas.
So that’s why I left. I tried to reason with them for nearly two years, but it has proven fruitless. The pastors are content to continue as they have, and it’s just become too heavy a burden. It’s kind of depressing, because I love the people I know at Chesapeake, but with the mindset that many people seem to have (that “we must attend the same church or else we can’t be friends”) it seems it’ll be extremely difficult to maintain our relationships.
So where is the Seitler family headed? I don’t know, but I’m definitely scarred from (and scared of) this overbearing leadership, and so we’re probably looking more toward a house church than toward any other “model.” In the meantime, we’ve actually enjoyed greater fellowship with other believers in the past few weeks than we had when we were in “the club”–and it was mostly due to opportunities that wouldn’t have been available to us if we were attending Sunday morning meetings and Wednesday night meetings and…
UPDATE #2: The post I linked “moving expenses” to (on a blog written by Jason Reyes’ wife Laurie) has been removed since my post appeared here this morning. Just to show you there really *was* a post there (and to let you still read it), here’s a screenshot of Laurie’s Delete Post from within Google Reader. It was the only place with a copy still available.
And here’s larger versions of the six pictures from that post (including the last one, which Jason’s actually in): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
I guess this is just another example of their tendency to cover things up instead of dealing with them.
UPDATE #2: Laurie now has a video on YouTube showing the house.
UPDATE #3: What do I mean by “cult”? Find out here.
Family-to-Family: Any Personal Recommendations?
I’m in Panera this morning, catching up on blog-related things and that’s how I learned about Family-to-Family.
It sounds pretty simple: a group of at least five families in one U.S. community (usually suburban) come together and “sponsor” families in a destitute community somewhere else in the country. Each month a participating family sends food, toiletries, etc. to the same family in need.
It sounds like a good idea, but I’d like to hear from folks who’ve checked it out more (I’ve just read the web site) or who are currently working with them. Specifically, I’m curious how far a new “chapter” can go in selecting the community they’ll sponsor. (I know if I were to do this, I’d want to at least have the possibility of being able to meet the folks we’re serving. It’s not necessary, but it would certainly be a “selling point” for me.)
Because of the relational focus, I think this is the sort of thing that would work well on a Care Group level rather than being a “top-down” ministry (that is, congregation-wide with a centralized administration).
A Poor Man Who Walks in His Integrity
I was reading today’s ESV Daily Verse when I realized that money—especially the way Christians handle it—is kind of a pet topic for me. For example:
- On the Highlighting of Many Books…
If our possessions really belong to God, then why are we marking up “our” books? Do you mark up library books? - The Cross Centered Life: Not Just for the Wealthy!
Two in-print books are repackaged as if they were a single, new one… and who knows how many people were hoodwinked in the process? - Cognitive Dissonance: Money and the Church
The United States’ welfare system could be eliminated solely by Christians providing reasonable levels of financial assistance to those in need. But instead, let’s get some plasma TV screens for our church building’s lobby… we want to be relevant, don’tcha know! - Silver and Gold ARE Money…
The “dollar bill,” however, is not. It’s simply a promise to pay issued by an organization which is in the red by trillions. Think they’ll make good on that IOU anytime soon? - 2007: Time To Circle The Wagons?
Is that recession I smell? Possibly. - What Does the Bible Say About the Tithe?
Hint: It’s not what most pastors and radio teachers are telling you…
And now there’s this verse that says integrity and character are more important than a house, stock portfolio or retirement account. And that’s true. The lie would be if you said a poor man is better than a rich man, period. No, the point of this proverb is the same point Jesus made: namely, pursue holiness no matter the cost.
But are we really willing to do that?



