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		<title>WSJ on Tithing</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Wall Street Journal has just published a decent article on the fight against the tithing heresy, and it&#8217;s scary how similar my own story is to that of one of the believers in the article: When he objected to &#8230; <a href="http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/11/the-backlash-against-tithing-wsjcom.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wall Street Journal has just published <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119576921737201375.html">a decent article on the fight against the tithing heresy</a>, and it&#8217;s scary how similar <a href="http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/09/moving-on.html">my own story</a> is to that of one of the believers in the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>When he objected to his church&#8217;s instructions to tithe, Kirk Cesaretti took it up with the church leaders. In response, he received a letter from the pastor and elders of Hydesville Community Church in Hydesville, Calif. &#8220;At this time, we believe your concerns do not warrant any change in our church policy or positions,&#8221; the letter read.</p>
<p>The letter closed with a verse from Hebrews 13:17: &#8220;Obey your leaders, and submit to them; for they keep watch over your souls; as those who will give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Cesaretti, an engineer in Fortuna, Calif., says he took the letter to mean he was no longer welcome at the church. Hydesville&#8217;s senior pastor, Michael Delamarian III, says he believes &#8220;the more you give the more you&#8217;re going to be blessed.&#8221; He says he did not bar Mr. Cesaretti from the church.</p>
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<p>There&#8217;s a lot of passive-aggressive manipulation happening on the part of these pastors toward the flocks under their care. The article also mentions the practice of pastors making applicants sign a document essentially vowing to tithe. Are there so few people who understand that inclusion in the visible expression of the Body of Christ is <em>not</em> something to be held for ransom? My heart breaks for the people who have turned (or rather, <em>been</em> turned) away from Christ on account of grinning, greedy wolves like this at the pulpit.</p>
<p>So yeah, if you were wondering&#8230; <a href="http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/03/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-tithe.html">the wound</a>&#8216;s still a bit fresh.</p>
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		<title>To submit every tradition</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis Seitler</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#34;The hallmark of an authentic evangelicalism is not the uncritical repetition of old traditions, but the willingness to submit every tradition, however ancient, to fresh Biblical scrutiny and, if necessary, reform&#34; (John Stott, &#34;Basic Stott,&#34; Christianity Today, Jan.8, 1996) This &#8230; <a href="http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/09/to-submit-every-tradition.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&quot;The hallmark of an authentic evangelicalism is not the uncritical repetition of old traditions, but the willingness to submit every tradition, however ancient, to fresh Biblical scrutiny and, if necessary, reform&quot; (John Stott, &quot;Basic Stott,&quot; Christianity Today, Jan.8, 1996)</p>
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<p>This quote was cited in <a href="http://www.edgenet.org.nz/ideasfromedge/problemwithpreaching.htm">The Problem With Preaching</a>, a year-old article I just discovered. The author says this:</p>
<blockquote><p>&quot;Preaching&quot; as it is practiced in churches today (&#038; in the past) has little biblical basis&#8212;the &quot;preaching&quot; that occurs is extra-biblical (outside the bible). In the New Testament, preaching was always linked to preaching of the gospel or kingdom to those that are outside or on the edge of the kingdom&#8212;the Greek verbs used in the NT to portray preaching are found overwhelmingly in situations which are outside church meetings and evangelistic in nature.  In contrast, in our churches today we &quot;preach to the choir&quot;&#8212;most people sitting in churches listening to sermons are Christians, and most have been there listening to sermons for many years&#8212;our preaching is actually teaching about Christianity to a predominantly Christian audience, week after week for the rest of their lives.</p>
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<p>He lays out a pretty strong case for his stance, and I&#8217;d recommend y&#8217;all read this article&#8212;if for nothing else than to get a fresh perspective on something we typically take for granted in the Church.</p>
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