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		<title>Twitter claims I said these things on 2009-03-28</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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&#8220;Study, pray, drink Red Bull, go.&#8221; http://tinyurl.com/dfbzg5 #
Deepak: &#8220;What makes you think that God is a &#8216;he&#8217;?&#8221; Driscoll: &#8220;Jesus. You may have heard of him? Really big dude.&#8221; #
Sorry, forgot the link for the last quote: http://tinyurl.com/dxyyt2 #

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<li><em>&#8220;Study, pray, drink Red Bull, go.&#8221;</em> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/dfbzg5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/dfbzg5</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/travisseitler/statuses/1408978264">#</a></li>
<li><strong>Deepak:</strong> <em>&#8220;What makes you think that God is a &#8216;he&#8217;?&#8221;</em> <strong>Driscoll:</strong> <em>&#8220;Jesus. You may have heard of him? Really big dude.&#8221;</em> <a href="http://twitter.com/travisseitler/statuses/1409010176">#</a></li>
<li>Sorry, forgot the link for the last quote: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/dxyyt2" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/dxyyt2</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/travisseitler/statuses/1409026005">#</a></li>
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		<title>What sort of speech is &#8220;good for building up&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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I wanted to take a few minutes and share my thoughts on a passage from the Bible that&#8217;s been on my radar lately:
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. &#8212; Ephesians [...]]]></description>
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<p>I wanted to take a few minutes and share my thoughts on a passage from the Bible that&#8217;s been on my radar lately:</p>
<blockquote><p><cite>Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.</cite> &mdash; Ephesians 4:29, ESV</p>
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<p>Y&#8217;know, I think there&#8217;s a world of difference between what Paul was thinking when he said this, and what people today tend to think when they read it.</p>
<p>This verse marks the last of <em>four</em> times in this epistle where Paul uses the same word (Gr. <em>oikodome</em>, but your translation probably says something like &#8220;good for building up,&#8221; or &#8220;edifying&#8221;). Even so, when I&#8217;ve heard pastors preach on this topic they&#8217;ve typically focused in on an understanding of the word that&#8217;s informed solely by the verse itself, and divorced from other passages where Paul&#8217;s usage could shed light on what he means by it. This sort of thing always bugs me: if pastors are trying to build a true understanding of what Paul&#8217;s telling us to do here, then at the very least they ought to point us to those previous instances of the word. Right?</p>
<p>Because let me tell ya&#8230; it certainly helps it all make sense!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s all four appearances of <em>oikodome</em> as they&#8217;re translated in the ESV. <span id="more-1144"></span> I&#8217;ve bolded (emboldened?) the word we&#8217;re talking about, and pointed out what I see as the key takeaway point from each (well, the key for understanding what Paul&#8217;s getting at with this &#8220;edification&#8221; stuff, at least):</p>
<ol type="1">
<li><strong>Ephesians 2:19-22</strong><br />
<cite>So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are <strong>being built together</strong> into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.</cite></p>
<p>What&#8217;s the goal? In Jesus, we are being &#8220;edified&#8221; into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.</li>
<li><strong>Ephesians 4:11-14</strong><br />
<cite>And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for <strong>building up</strong> the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes.</cite></p>
<p>The purpose of &#8220;the 5-fold ministry&#8221; is to get the rest of us to a place where we&#8217;re equipped/trained/able to &#8220;edify&#8221; each other until we all reach the point of mature, Christ-like unity.</li>
<li><strong>Ephesians 4:15-16</strong><br />
<cite>Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every joint with which it is equipped, when each part is working properly, makes the body grow so that <strong>it builds itself up</strong> in love.</cite></p>
<p>Here Paul starts connecting our words with this concept of &#8220;edification.&#8221; He describes something like a circuit, where loving words of truth lead to our growing up into Christ, which feeds back into our expressed love leading to more growth, etc.</li>
<li><strong>Ephesians 4:25-32</strong><br />
<cite>Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another. Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, and give no opportunity to the devil. Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need. Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for <strong>building up</strong>, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.</cite></p>
<p>Now that we have the previous passages as context, we can see that when Paul talks about &#8220;building up,&#8221; he&#8217;s referring to <em>talk that leads to increased spiritual growth and purity.</em> (In a nutshell, &#8220;edifying speech&#8221; could also be called &#8220;sanctifying speech.&#8221;)</li>
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<p>What concerns me is that, in the sermons I&#8217;ve heard addressing the topic of &#8220;edifying speech,&#8221; most pastors seem to have taken a cue from pop psychology, and changed this word&#8217;s meaning away from &#8220;sanctifying&#8221; and toward something akin to &#8220;affirming.&#8221; No longer is &#8220;edifying speech&#8221; about growing the body into greater Christ-likeness, but now it&#8217;s a tool we use to make ourselves feel better about ourselves, and avoid any unpleasantness we&#8217;d rather not deal with.</p>
<p>When we do this, priorities shift. Jesus being glorified by our increasingly pure reflection of Him? That&#8217;s no longer as important as making sure we only ever say things that give out brothers and sisters (and pastors) warm fuzzies.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just messed up.</p>
<p>Now of course, we&#8217;re supposed to speak in love! And we&#8217;re to stash the bitterness and malice. But according to 4:25, Paul doesn&#8217;t think truth should be sacrificed on the altar of flattery.</p>
<p>So this passage doesn&#8217;t seem to say anything definitive against &#8220;sharing a bad report&#8221; (as I&#8217;ve heard some pastors seem to have recently implied). If you&#8217;re sharing such things it out of bitterness or malice, then it would be wrong to do so&#8230; for other reasons.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re sharing that &#8220;bad report&#8221; so that Jesus&#8217; Bride can see it, be alarmed, and focus on those blemishes being cleaned&#8230; then in fact Paul <em>encourages</em> the behavior!</p>
<p><strong>So in summary:</strong> Paul&#8217;s goal is for us to leave each other a little more like Jesus. Sometimes, that means we need to &#8220;share a bad report,&#8221; to staunch the flow of disease and call attention to some behavior that&#8217;s damaging the Body.</p>
<p>Even&mdash;no, <em>especially</em>&mdash;when that behavior is coming from those who presume to lead and teach. The Body of Christ is not built up when wolves are praised as wonderful leaders.</p>
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		<title>Dish Rag Jesus</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(This is the first in a series of rediscovered writings from one of my first web sites back in 1999. Some may have aged well, others&#8230; not so much. I&#8217;ll let you decide.)

This morning at the kitchen sink, I was hit with a revelation.   Jesus is kind of like a dish rag.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>(This is the first in a series of rediscovered writings from one of my first web sites back in 1999. Some may have aged well, others&#8230; not so much. I&#8217;ll let you decide.)</em></p>
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<p>This morning at the kitchen sink, I was hit with a revelation.   Jesus is kind of like a dish rag.  Hey, don&#8217;t give me that look.  Let me explain before you flame me, okay?</p>
<p>A dish rag washes dishes that are caked with all sorts of nasty stuff like dried ketchup and crusty eggs.  Likewise, when we ask for forgiveness, Jesus removes the sin from our lives and makes us sparkle like new.</p>
<p>Another parallel is in the cleaning method.  The way a dish rag cleans dishes is by taking the food (if you want to call it that) and getting it stuck to itself.  It&#8217;s common knowledge that the dish rag is the dirtiest, most germ-ridden item in the sink.  The Bible says &#8220;For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.&#8221; (2 Corinthians 8:9)  In other words, Jesus got dirty to make us clean.  In his death on the cross, all of our sin was placed on Jesus.   Matthew 27:46 says &#8220;About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, &#8216;Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?&#8217;&#8211;which means, &#8216;My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?&#8217;&#8221;  If you&#8217;ve ever cleaned out a refrigerator and had to toss out things like chunky milk and something with fuzzy green stuff growing on it, you get the picture.   We ain&#8217;t talkin&#8217; &#8217;bout no rotten egg.  The stench of the sin placed on Jesus was so strong, God had to turn his face to keep from barfing.</p>
<p>Yet another similarity is in what is washed.  Have you ever washed a plate, and think you have déja vu, until you realize you really DID wash that plate before?  That&#8217;s right.  Even though you&#8217;ve cleaned the plate, it got dirty again.  &#8220;Well, duh, Travis!  You really WERE born yesterday, weren&#8217;t you!&#8221;  Gimme a break.  Jesus is like that, too.  No, he doesn&#8217;t get déja vu.  What I mean is that even when he&#8217;s forgiven all of our sin, we still mess up.  That&#8217;s why 1 John 1:9 says &#8220;If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is one difference, though.  (Okay, maybe more than one, but it&#8217;s all you&#8217;re getting out of me.)   After a while, a dish rag gets so worn from continuous cleaning that it has to be tossed out and replaced, but Romans 6:10 states that &#8220;The death he died, he died to sin once for all&#8221;.  Jesus&#8217; act of mercy covered the sins of every single human who ever lived and ever will live, and will never run out.  There&#8217;s no &#8217;sin limit&#8217;, and there&#8217;s no sin so big that he can&#8217;t forgive.  All that is needed is to ask.  According to Matthew 7:7-8, &#8220;Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.   For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.&#8221;</p>
<p>Y&#8217;know, I think I&#8217;ve had my head in the suds too long.</p>
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		<title>A 2000-Year Old Modern-Day Parable</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Blog Action Day 2008]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[parable]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was this successful businessman, okay? He was raking in the dough, and he was all like, &#8220;What am I gonna do with all of this? It&#8217;s not like I can cram it all under my mattress.&#8221;
So he talked to his financial advisers, and decided, &#8220;I&#8217;ll max out my 401(k), flip some real estate, buy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was this successful businessman, okay? He was raking in the dough, and he was all like, &#8220;What am I gonna do with all of this? It&#8217;s not like I can cram it all under my mattress.&#8221;</p>
<p>So he talked to his financial advisers, and decided, &#8220;I&#8217;ll max out my 401(k), flip some real estate, buy up a bunch of tech stocks and live off the dividends. I&#8217;ll be all set, and I can retire before I&#8217;m fifty! See the world&#8230; maybe spend a year or two relaxing in Paris. I&#8217;m set for life.&#8221;</p>
<p>But God had other ideas: that same week the economy tanked, taking all the man&#8217;s investments with it. He died over the weekend of a massive stress-induced heart attack.</p>
<p><cite>&#8220;This is how it will be with anyone who stores up things for himself but is not rich toward God.&#8221;</cite></p>
<p>So here&#8217;s the deal: don&#8217;t worry about &#8220;taking care of yourself.&#8221; God&#8217;s been taking care of the rest of the world for a while now, and frankly, he&#8217;s way better at it than you are. There&#8217;s all sorts of idiots scurrying around chasing after things they have no real control over.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be like them, they&#8217;re stupid.</p>
<p>Instead, chase after God&#8217;s kingdom and trust him to take care of that other stuff. He&#8217;s happy to do it, too! So don&#8217;t freak out; <a href="http://www.ebay.com/">sell all of that crap</a> you&#8217;ve been holding onto, then take that money and <a href="http://www.bloodwatermission.com/">give it to people who are worse off than you</a>. That&#8217;s how you chase after God&#8217;s kingdom, and it&#8217;s the <em>only</em> investment that&#8217;s a sure thing.</p>
<p>See, you&#8217;re like a manager who&#8217;s been put in charge of payroll: you&#8217;ve been given access to large sums of money, but don&#8217;t let that delude you into thinking the money&#8217;s for you, because <em>it&#8217;s not</em>. What would the boss say if he found out that while he was on vacation, that manager withheld everybody else&#8217;s paychecks and gave himself a hefty bonus? Do you think he&#8217;d even be given time to clear out his desk?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12&#038;version=47"><cite>Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.</cite></a></p>
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		<title>Piety&#8217;s deposit fund</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On his Assembling of the Church blog, Alan Knox recently wrote not just one, or two, but three posts on Tertullian&#8217;s writings and their bearing on ecclesiology (which basically means the study of how we &#8220;do church&#8221;).
It&#8217;s illuminating to read what church leaders wrote in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD. So much corruption crept [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On his <strong>Assembling of the Church</strong> blog, Alan Knox recently wrote not just <a href="http://assembling.blogspot.com/2008/07/church-meeting-in-tertullian-part-1.html">one</a>, or <a href="http://assembling.blogspot.com/2008/07/church-meeting-in-tertullian-part-2.html">two</a>, but <a href="http://assembling.blogspot.com/2008/07/church-meeting-in-tertullian-part-3.html"><em>three</em></a> posts on Tertullian&#8217;s writings and their bearing on ecclesiology (which basically means the study of how we &#8220;do church&#8221;).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s illuminating to read what church leaders wrote in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD. So much corruption crept in when Rome took over the church that it&#8217;s otherwise difficult to sort what practices are actually rooted in the Apostles&#8217; teachings.</p>
<p>If you have a few minutes, go read Alan&#8217;s posts. You may be surprised at how much church meetings have changed!</p>
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		<title>Early Church Meetings [Quotes Week]</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2008/03/early-church-meetings-quotes-week.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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&#8220;They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><cite>&#8220;They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so. When this was over, it was their custom to depart and to assemble again to partake of food&#8211;but ordinary and innocent food. Even this, they affirmed, they had ceased to do after my edict by which, in accordance with your instructions, I had forbidden political associations.&#8221;</cite> &mdash; Pliny the Younger</p></blockquote>
<p>In more sixpencey words, <em>&#8220;Sing a song to Jesus | and promise not to lie | then get together in a home | and eat some fresh-baked pie.&#8221;</em> Sounds&#8230; simple, doesn&#8217;t it? Why doesn&#8217;t this sound <strong>anything</strong> like most Christians&#8217; (in the Western world, at least) Sunday gatherings? Head on over to <a href="http://assembling.blogspot.com/2008/03/meeting-with-early-church-plinys-letter.html">Alan Knox&#8217;s post on it</a> to chime in on that particular discussion.</p>
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		<title>Sovereign Grace Ministries &#8211; Church or Cult? [Quotes Week]</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to kick off &#8220;quotes week&#8221; on a serious note, but the Monkey song was just too darned funny. Anyway, here&#8217;s my original Monday post:
&#8220;&#8230;how is it that CJ Mahaney can make 5 references to his pride and arrogance in his blog, [and] that&#8217;s somehow celebrated as humility&#8230; [but Larry Tomczak] is confronted with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to kick off &#8220;quotes week&#8221; on a serious note, but <a href="http://travis.webseitler.com/2008/03/monkey-or-ape-quotes-week.html">the Monkey song</a> was just too darned funny. Anyway, here&#8217;s my original Monday post:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;how is it that CJ Mahaney can make 5 references to his pride and arrogance in his blog, [and] that&#8217;s somehow celebrated as humility&#8230; [but Larry Tomczak] is confronted with observations of pride and arrogance, prayerfully considers these observations, repents of his sin, writes a letter to this effect that is distributed to the entire ministry, steps down from leadership, and submits to months of disciplinary consequences&#8230; [only to be considered] &#8216;disqualified&#8217; to lead a church?</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry. But this woman&#8217;s posts&mdash;more than any others (b/c she was obviously involved in this process)&mdash;has convinced me that Sovereign Grace is a cult.&#8221;</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=44/#comment-4830">comment by &#8220;SGM Casualty&#8221;</a> on SGM Survivors)</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://sgmsurvivors.com/">This website</a> is blowing the lid off of the corruption and poor leadership that&#8217;s been allowed to fester in Sovereign Grace Ministries, due to years of <a href="http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=45">fear, control, and cultic tactics</a>. It&#8217;s heartbreaking to hear some of the stories from former members; moreso to hear the ensuing silence from SGM leadership.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nasty stuff in there, folks, but C.J. <em>et al</em> seem to want to just circle the wagons. Honestly? I think that&#8217;s worse than anything that&#8217;s being said over on the blog (and new message board).</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead <strong>expose them.</strong>&#8220;</em> &mdash; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%205:11&#038;version=47">Ephesians 5:11</a> (ESV)</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> On Friday, March 14th, Eric Simmons spoke to the singles at Covenant Life Church in Gaithersburg, MD. You can <a href="http://covlifemedia.org/events_series/ONE/TheBible/The_Bible_Part1_03.14.2008.mp3">download the MP3</a> of his talk, but what I find most interesting is this particular quote (beginning at the 13:49 mark):<br />
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<p>I&#8217;m also concerned because at this point in time, we are at the pinnacle of the Information Age. You can in an instant find tons of information on any subject you want on Google. Do you realize that Google allows you to be one step away from a lot of heresies?</p>
<p>There are a lot of heretics out there with a lot of false teachings that have blogs. And it&#8217;s phenomenal to me in our age now, that what is represented on the Internet is now seen as fact, and authority, and truth! And the reality? Most of these guys who are writing blogs are 24-year-old guys living in their moms&#8217; basement, sitting there in their underwear! That&#8217;s what they&#8217;re doing! They&#8217;ve got a robe on, and they&#8217;re just typing away. And they&#8217;re typing away their false teaching, which is honestly a bunch of garbage.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s out there! It&#8217;s just one click away.</p>
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<p><img style="display:block;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:500px" src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/eric-simmons-bloggers-quote.jpg' alt='Eric Simmons: quote on bloggers' /></p>
<p>I would humbly submit that this is nothing more than fear-based propaganda. (I would also like to point out that <a href="http://www.sovgracemin.org/Blog/author/C.J.%20Mahaney.aspx">C.J. Mahaney</a>, <a href="http://www.joshharris.com/">Josh Harris</a> and <a href="http://orthodoxyunderground.blogspot.com/">Eric Simmons</a> are all bloggers&#8211;Eric doubly so, as <a href="http://newattitude.org/blog/category/erics_thoughts/">he also writes for the New Attitude blog</a>.)</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE #2:</strong> I seem to have driven the &#8220;Orthodoxy Underground&#8221; further underground, as can be attested by <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;hs=f4c&#038;q=+site:www.blogger.com+blogger+%22orthodoxy+underground%22">Google&#8217;s cached versions of these Blogger profiles</a>. (Thanks to Elaine Hooton for pointing out that the blog was apparently taken down.)  I don&#8217;t know much of anything about the blog (it was private; you had to be pre-approved by their admins just to <em>read</em> it), but apparently (according to Google) Thabiti Anyabwile, Justin Buzzard and Ricky Alcantar were all members of the blog. So why&#8217;d they delete the whole thing, just a few days after this matter came up? <img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>UPDATE #3:</strong> Bugger. The Google Cache link doesn&#8217;t work anymore. Well, it just listed the Blogger profiles for Eric, Thabiti, Justin and Ricky (and showed them as linked to the Orthodoxy Underground site). Thanks to Dan for catching this one!</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE #4:</strong> <a href="http://travis.webseitler.com/2008/05/when-travis-says-cult-what-does-he-mean.html">What do I mean by &#8220;cult&#8221;? Find out here.</a></p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s All A Matter of Perspective</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I woke up at 5:00 this morning, and despite how that might sound, I was actually wide awake. I tiptoed downstairs, put on some coffee, and started my day. It was rather pleasant, actually.
But you&#8217;d never think that from looking at this picture.

[T]he king of Syria was greatly troubled&#8230; and he called his servants and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I woke up at 5:00 this morning, and despite how that might sound, I was actually wide awake. I tiptoed downstairs, put on some coffee, and started my day. It was rather pleasant, actually.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;d never think that from looking at this picture.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/travisseitler/2232727796/" title="Day 3: It Began Very, Very Early by Travis Seitler, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2056/2232727796_0128d26448.jpg" width="500" height="357" alt="Day 3: It Began Very, Very Early" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>[T]he king of Syria was greatly troubled&#8230; and he called his servants and said to them, &#8220;Will you not show me who of us is for the king of Israel?&#8221; And one of his servants said, &#8220;None, my lord, O king; but Elisha, the prophet who is in Israel, tells the king of Israel the words that you speak in your bedroom.&#8221; And he said, &#8220;Go and see where he is, that I may send and seize him.&#8221; It was told him, &#8220;Behold, he is in Dothan.&#8221; So he sent there horses and chariots and a great army, and they came by night and surrounded the city.</p>
<p>When the servant of the man of God rose early in the morning and went out, behold, an army with horses and chariots was all around the city. And the servant said, &#8220;Alas, my master! What shall we do?&#8221; &#8212; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Kings%206:11-15;&#038;version=47;">2 Kings 6:11-15</a> (ESV)</p></blockquote>
<p>Facing certain death, was Elisha&#8217;s servant asking a question, or rhetorically freaking out? The odds of two men fending off an entire army? Let&#8217;s just say they aren&#8217;t in the two men&#8217;s favor.</p>
<p>But you see, that&#8217;s the problem with people; we can spend so much time thinking about odds and chances that we begin to treat statistics as some sort of god, sovereignly dictating its omnipotent will.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to count the likely cost of a project before taking it on; it&#8217;s another matter <em>entirely</em> to run screaming when you see the estimate. Following the will of God often means choosing the seemingly foolish path because it&#8217;s the path God has called you to. God&#8217;s command trumps our understanding of wisdom, so the path we&#8217;re called to <em>is the path in which God will bless us.</em> We aren&#8217;t called to protect our lives and livelihood; we&#8217;re called to carry our crosses&#8212;to face our own &#8220;certain death&#8221;&#8212;because it&#8217;s in laying down our lives for His sake that we find true life.</p>
<blockquote><p>[Elisha] said, &#8220;Do not be afraid, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.&#8221; Then Elisha prayed and said, &#8220;O LORD, please open his eyes that he may see.&#8221; So the LORD opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw, and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha. &#8212; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Kings%206:16-17;&#038;version=47;">2 Kings 6:16-17</a> (ESV)</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s all sorts of situations in life where we can lose heart. Me? In the last week I lost two pairs of dress pants (required for my job). A few days earlier I tore the inside handle off my car&#8217;s driver-side door, and at 215,000 miles and counting, it&#8217;s hard to tell whether the necessary repairs are really all that necessary. I&#8217;m committed to voting for a guy who&#8212;statistically speaking&#8212;is unelectable. And lest we forget, compared to gold the U.S. Dollar is only worth one quarter its value on 9/11; Bush&#8217;s multi-trillion-dollar &#8220;war&#8221; on terror is forcing us all into a slavery of debt, much as Pharaoh&#8217;s 7-year drought did to the Hebrews.</p>
<p>But&#8230; I&#8217;m not discouraged. Because God owes me nothing. Not a thing. &#8220;Naked I came from my motherâ€™s womb, and naked shall I return.&#8221; So whether it seems like He doing more giving or taking away, &#8220;blessed be the name of the LORD.&#8221;</p>
<p>I still say you should vote for Ron Paul, though. <img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>NASA Exists for the Glory of God</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if, when Jesus spoke of &#8220;the world,&#8221; he really meant exactly what it says in the Greek: that is, the kosmos (universe)? How would it change our approach to the various fruits of the Gospel?
&#8220;For God so loved the [universe], that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if, when Jesus spoke of &#8220;the world,&#8221; he really meant exactly what it says in the Greek: that is, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos"><em>kosmos</em></a> (universe)? How would it change our approach to the various fruits of the Gospel?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;For God so loved the [universe], that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the [universe] to condemn the [universe], but in order that the [universe] might be saved through him.&#8221; &mdash; John 3:16-17 (ESV)</p>
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<p>And no, I&#8217;m <strong>not</strong> talking about <em>universalism</em>&#8211;that&#8217;s a whole different beast. What I&#8217;m talking about is this idea that&#8217;s grabbed me&mdash;that maybe John 3:16 has less to do with God loving &#8220;each individual person&#8221; and more with loving his <em>entire</em> creation and seeking <em>its</em> redemption. Like Paul told the believers in Corinth:</p>
<blockquote><p>For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. For in this hope we were saved. &mdash; 1 Corinthians 8:19-24 (ESV)</p>
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<p>The entire universe was &#8220;subjected to futility,&#8221; &#8220;its bondage to corruption&#8221;&#8211;that is, <strong>entropy</strong>&#8211;along with us, so that it will also be restored along with us! It is an unbiblical notion that God only sent Jesus to redeem <em>people</em>. When man sinned, the universe cracked under the weight of our guilt. Jesus has come, and is coming again to make all things new!</p>
<blockquote><p>And he said to them, &#8220;Go into all the [universe] and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.&#8221; &mdash; Mark 16:15 (ESV)</p>
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<p>And what has NASA done with the Hubble telescope? And what of all the many television and radio signals shooting off into the ether? Whether they intended to or not is beside the point; the gospel is being proclaimed <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2019:1&#038;version=47">by</a> the whole creation and <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024:14&#038;version=47">to</a> the whole creation.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;And then the end will come.&#8221;</em> The end where he says,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for <em>the former things have passed away.</em>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>Just think about that for a minute: a day is coming when <em>living a life apart from God</em>&#8230; and <em>tears</em>&#8230; and <em>death</em>&#8230; and <em>mourning</em>&#8230; and <em>crying</em>&#8230; and <em>pain</em> will all be &#8220;former things.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a Sabbath rest worth getting excited about! <img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Yet Another Reason Not to Trust Your Pastor</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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If you don&#8217;t immediately see a problem with this, then you might be in a [...]]]></description>
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<p>If you don&#8217;t immediately see a problem with this, then you might be in a cult.</p>
<p>Chuck Baldwin <a href="http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20070810.html">spoke about this a few weeks ago</a>. His take?</p>
<blockquote><p>Remember that every apostle of Christ (except John) was killed by hostile civil authorities opposed to their endeavors. Christians throughout church history were imprisoned, tortured, or killed by civil authorities of all stripes for refusing to submit to their various laws and prohibitions. Did all of these Christian martyrs violate God&#8217;s principle of submission to authority?</p>
<p>[I]n America the &#8220;higher powers&#8221; are not the men who occupy elected office, they are the tenets and principles set forth in the U.S. Constitution. Under our laws and form of government, it is the duty of every citizen, including our elected officials, to obey the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, this is how Romans Chapter 13 reads to Americans:</p>
<blockquote><p>Let every soul be subject unto the [U.S. Constitution.]&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
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<p>And I completely agree with Mr. Baldwin.</p>
<p>Ask your pastor what he would do in a situation such as that presented in this video clip. If he would comply with the government in such a case, <em>leave that church now.</em> You are being led by a wolf, and he has no concern for your well-being. Only harm can come from remaining under such a man.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From You Can&#8217;t Love Jesus and Hate His Wife (Catalyst):
But then, he starts verbally ripping on my wife like she&#8217;s not even standing there. She&#8217;s right there! He thinks my wife, who has been the love of my life and a partner in ministry for 25 years, is a drain on my ability to influence [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.catalystspace.com/content/monthly/detail.aspx?i=1269&#038;m=09&#038;y=2007">You Can&#8217;t Love Jesus and Hate His Wife (Catalyst)</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>But then, he starts verbally ripping on my wife like she&#8217;s not even standing there. She&#8217;s right there! He thinks my wife, who has been the love of my life and a partner in ministry for 25 years, is a drain on my ability to influence others. He says she&#8217;s obsolete and that the &#8220;old girl is a little faded.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in shock.</p>
<p>Suddenly, the cheesy Christian motto of the 1990s flashes through my mind: What would Jesus do? Turn the other cheek? Pray for His enemy? Hand this guy His cloak?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m about to go Jack Bauer on him.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;but Stetzer wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;go Jack Bauer on&#8221; his own wife if <em>she</em> were the one doing the ripping, right?<br />
&#8230;so he&#8217;s not angry about <em>Christians</em> ripping on the Church, right?<br />
&#8230;because it&#8217;s not just pastors who make up the Bride, right?</p>
<p>Nope. According to Stetzer, verbal criticism of what&#8217;s being done wrong in the Church is <em>&#8220;abus[ing Jesus'] wife.&#8221;</em> As in, &#8220;abusing <em>another</em> person.&#8221; As in, &#8220;this [organization that I and others administer] is his wife, and you&#8217;re <em>other</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like just another repackaging of the ol&#8217; knee-slapper, <strong>&#8220;touch not the LORD&#8217;s anointed!&#8221;</strong> Because this article isn&#8217;t about Christians <em>en masse</em> (the <em>Biblical</em> definition of &#8220;the Bride of Christ&#8221;) being criticized; it&#8217;s about criticizing <strong>structures and organizations</strong>&#8211;or more to the point, the pastors behind them.</p>
<p>See, in many pastors&#8217; minds, <em>they</em> are the church. <em>You</em> just attend and give them money (and occasionally trouble).</p>
<blockquote><p>Alarmingly there is a significant group of men and women leaving the church but holding to a form of Christian devotion. Wrong answer!</p></blockquote>
<p>We&#8217;re not leaving the Church, Mr. Stetzer. We&#8217;re leaving the artificial power structure that men like you have dedicated your lives to propping up. We&#8217;re leaving the State-sponsored clubs that you and other &#8220;pastors&#8221; insist we join. We&#8217;re leaving modern Pharisaism. But we&#8217;re not leaving the Church.</p>
<p>If anything, the Church abandons us because few Christians care about &#8220;fellowship&#8221; outside of structured meetings (and this includes small groups). We stop showing up at the clubhouse on Sunday morning, and strangely we stop getting invited to people&#8217;s houses, too (if we were ever invited in the first place). We stop attending a &#8220;Care Group&#8221; and all of a sudden the other people there get the impression that they aren&#8217;t under any obligation to care for us anymore.</p>
<p>And why is that? Because what you call &#8220;the church&#8221; isn&#8217;t the Bride of Christ&#8211;not in any meaningful sense. No, what you call &#8220;the church&#8221; is just a man-made system that the forces of Hades certainly could stand against&#8211;if they had any such inclination.</p>
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		<title>Shameful for *Who*?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[None of this is to say we shouldn&#8217;t test what we&#8217;ve been taught, talk it out, use the community as the context for &#8220;field testing&#8221; theology, work at iron sharpening iron, hold our teachers accountable, etc. It is only to say that the worship gathering is not the right forum for the discussion. &#8212; Jared [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>None of this is to say we shouldn&#8217;t test what we&#8217;ve been taught, talk it out, use the community as the context for &#8220;field testing&#8221; theology, work at iron sharpening iron, hold our teachers accountable, etc. It is only to say that <strong>the worship gathering is not the right forum for the discussion.</strong> &#8212; Jared Wilson, <a href="http://gospeldrivenchurch.blogspot.com/2007/09/further-thoughts-on-sermon-centric.html">Further Thoughts on Sermon-centric Worship</a></p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;When you come together&#8230; Let two or three prophets speak, and <strong>let the others weigh what is said.</strong> [...] If there is anything <strong>[the women] desire to learn, let them</strong> ask their [men] at home. For it is shameful <strong>for a woman</strong> to speak in church.&#8221; &#8212; The Apostle Paul, 1 Corinthians 14:26,29,35 (ESV)</p>
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<p>I wish Jared would go the whole way and require the non-preaching men of his church to wear dresses!</p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Exodus 15:11</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/09/ipod-daily-verse-exodus-1511.html' title='Who is like you, O LORD, among the gods? Who is like you, majestic in holiness, awesome in glorious deeds, doing wonders? -- Exodus 15:11'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/02_exodus_15_11.thumbnail.png' alt='Exodus 15:11' /></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/02_exodus_15_11.png' title='Who is like you, O LORD, among the gods? Who is like you, majestic in holiness, awesome in glorious deeds, doing wonders? -- Exodus 15:11'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/02_exodus_15_11.png' alt='Exodus 15:11' /></a></p>
<p>Moses isn&#8217;t trying to remind his people of a timeless truth here (although it <em>is</em> a timeless truth). The people had just witnessed God&#8217;s miraculous handling of the Red Sea and Pharaoh&#8217;s armies. They had just been saved from certain destruction at an angry king&#8217;s hand. This is an adrenaline-pumped song of celebration!</p>
<p>When was the last time you had cause for celebration like this? When was the last time God pulled your backside out of the fire in a major way?</p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Jude 1:24-25</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/09/ipod-daily-verse-jude-124-25.html' title='Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen. -- Jude 1:24-25'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/65_jude_1_24-25.thumbnail.png' alt='Jude 1:24-25' /></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/65_jude_1_24-25.png' title='Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen. -- Jude 1:24-25'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/65_jude_1_24-25.png' alt='Jude 1:24-25' /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Able to keep you from stumbling</strong></p>
<p>Do you&#8211;like me&#8211;need to be reminded of this? So many times, my dogged pursuit of the truth is (or later becomes) driven by my lack of faith in this area. I live a life that reflects Ben Franklin&#8217;s (unbiblical) adage, &#8220;God helps those who help themselves.&#8221; Instead of trusting God to keep me from stumbling, I rely on my own efforts and, ironically enough, this is itself a sort of stumbling.</p>
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<p><strong>present you blameless&#8230; with great joy</strong></p>
<p>He&#8217;s speaking of God&#8217;s great joy, not ours. It&#8217;s easy to think of my own joy being great when I&#8217;m finally presented &#8220;blameless before the presence of his glory,&#8221; but I&#8217;ll admit that I usually see God as an exhausted parent who&#8217;s just barely tolerating me. It&#8217;s unnatural for me to think of him as being filled with &#8220;great joy&#8221; at my final blameless presentation; instead, my tendency is to think if him collapsing in his throne and thinking, &#8220;finally, <em>that&#8217;s</em> over!&#8221;</p>
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<p><strong>the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord</strong></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t is so easy to see God (the Father) as the big, mean disciplinarian and Jesus as the kind, forgiving one (like a cosmic &#8220;good cop/bad cop&#8221;)? But no, <em>the Father himself</em> is our Savior.</p>
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<p><strong>to God&#8230; be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever</strong></p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a request, it&#8217;s a declaration: all glory, majesty, dominion and authority have been, are, and will forever belong to God! He even has dominion over our souls, which is how he can &#8220;present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy.&#8221; The ESV got it wrong; this should end with an exclamation mark!</p>
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		<title>Revisiting the Daily ESV iPod Pic</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m restarting the ESV Daily Verse program, but I&#8217;m tired of the old style. Here&#8217;s what today&#8217;s verse looks like in my original layout:

And after playing around a bit, I came up with this one:

I think it fits the iPod better, for a few reasons:

The verse reference is based on the iTunes sidebar.
It&#8217;s easier to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m restarting the ESV Daily Verse program, but I&#8217;m tired of the old style. Here&#8217;s what today&#8217;s verse looks like in my original layout:</p>
<p><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/65_jude_1_24-25_old.png' alt='Jude 1:24-25' /></p>
<p>And after playing around a bit, I came up with this one:</p>
<p><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/65_jude_1_24-25.png' alt='Jude 1:24-25' /></p>
<p>I think it fits the iPod better, for a few reasons:</p>
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<li>The verse reference is based on the iTunes sidebar.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s easier to read in an iPod&#8217;s photo thumbnail screen.</li>
<li>The blue gradient is pretty snazzy.</li>
</ol>
<p>So if you&#8217;re wondering why the new images look different, that&#8217;s why!</p>
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		<title>Local or Universal?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan Knox has an article about the &#8220;local/universal church&#8221; up on his blog today:
It seems to me that the &#8220;local church&#8221; and &#8220;universal church&#8221; distinctions adds very little to our biblical understanding of God or of the church. Instead, it seems to divide the church into little groups that feel that they are maintaining unity [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Knox has <a href="http://assembling.blogspot.com/2007/09/local-or-universal.html">an article about the &#8220;local/universal church&#8221;</a> up on his blog today:</p>
<blockquote><p>It seems to me that the &#8220;local church&#8221; and &#8220;universal church&#8221; distinctions adds very little to our biblical understanding of God or of the church. Instead, it seems to divide the church into little groups that feel that they are maintaining unity in the body of Christ as long as they are united withing their &#8220;local church&#8221;. Meanwhile, it also allows believers to ignore the &#8220;one-anothers&#8221; of Scripture if the &#8220;one-another&#8221; does not &#8220;belong&#8221; to their &#8220;local church&#8221;.</p>
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<p>This is one of the big reasons behind a project I have in the works. I don&#8217;t know when it&#8217;ll be announced, because I just finished <a href="http://www.indecocorp.com">a client&#8217;s redesign</a> and I have <a href="http://www.sugarplumpaperie.com">some family obligations</a> to attend to. <img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But one of these days, I&#8217;ll let you know what&#8217;s under the hood&#8230;</p>
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		<title>To submit every tradition</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#34;The hallmark of an authentic evangelicalism is not the uncritical repetition of old traditions, but the willingness to submit every tradition, however ancient, to fresh Biblical scrutiny and, if necessary, reform&#34; (John Stott, &#34;Basic Stott,&#34; Christianity Today, Jan.8, 1996)

This quote was cited in The Problem With Preaching, a year-old article I just discovered. The author [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&quot;The hallmark of an authentic evangelicalism is not the uncritical repetition of old traditions, but the willingness to submit every tradition, however ancient, to fresh Biblical scrutiny and, if necessary, reform&quot; (John Stott, &quot;Basic Stott,&quot; Christianity Today, Jan.8, 1996)</p>
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<p>This quote was cited in <a href="http://www.edgenet.org.nz/ideasfromedge/problemwithpreaching.htm">The Problem With Preaching</a>, a year-old article I just discovered. The author says this:</p>
<blockquote><p>&quot;Preaching&quot; as it is practiced in churches today (&#038; in the past) has little biblical basis&#8212;the &quot;preaching&quot; that occurs is extra-biblical (outside the bible). In the New Testament, preaching was always linked to preaching of the gospel or kingdom to those that are outside or on the edge of the kingdom&#8212;the Greek verbs used in the NT to portray preaching are found overwhelmingly in situations which are outside church meetings and evangelistic in nature.  In contrast, in our churches today we &quot;preach to the choir&quot;&#8212;most people sitting in churches listening to sermons are Christians, and most have been there listening to sermons for many years&#8212;our preaching is actually teaching about Christianity to a predominantly Christian audience, week after week for the rest of their lives.</p>
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<p>He lays out a pretty strong case for his stance, and I&#8217;d recommend y&#8217;all read this article&#8212;if for nothing else than to get a fresh perspective on something we typically take for granted in the Church.</p>
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		<title>The Irony</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My name is Travis Seitler, and I approve of and agree with this quote:
I do sort of like the irony in people criticizing me for being critical of people being critical. Sort of a rabbit-hole type thing. Is the one with the last word most divisive? Wheeeeee!

Source: &#8220;On Division,&#8221; The Gospel-Driven Church
Edit: Ooh, there&#8217;s more:
There [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Travis Seitler, and I approve of and agree with this quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I do sort of like the irony in people criticizing me for being critical of people being critical. Sort of a rabbit-hole type thing. Is the one with the last word most divisive? Wheeeeee!</p>
</blockquote>
<p><strong>Source:</strong> &#8220;<a href="http://gospeldrivenchurch.blogspot.com/2007/08/on-division.html">On Division</a>,&#8221; The Gospel-Driven Church</p>
<p><em><strong>Edit:</strong> Ooh, there&#8217;s more:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>There is the Gospel, and there is the not-Gospel. To criticize and name those who preach and profit from the not-Gospel is not being divisive; the division began with the deception. The unity is broken not at the point of criticism, but at the point of departure from the Gospel.</p>
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		<title>ESV Daily Verse&#8230; Should I?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Ignorance is Bliss, but Leads to Destruction</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, so it seems like it&#8217;s not obvious enough when I&#8217;m quoting other people&#8217;s stuff here&#8230; so let&#8217;s all be perfectly clear on this: I think this article written by someone who is not me has some good food for thought, regardless of whether you or I completely agree with it or not.
See to it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so it seems like it&#8217;s not obvious enough when I&#8217;m quoting other people&#8217;s stuff here&#8230; so let&#8217;s all be perfectly clear on this: I think <a href="http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2007/08/on-the-other-ha.html">this article written by someone who is not me</a> has some good food for thought, <em>regardless of whether you or I completely agree with it or not.</em></p>
<blockquote><p>See to it that no one carries you off as spoil or makes you yourselves captive by his so-called philosophy and intellectualism and vain deceit (idle fancies and plain nonsense), following human tradition (men&#8217;s ideas of the material rather than the spiritual world), just crude notions following the rudimentary and elemental teachings of the universe and disregarding [the teachings of] Christ (the Messiah). &#8212; Colossians 2:8 (AMP)</p>
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<p>I regularly refer to thoughts with which I do not necessarily agree. It is in dealing with those opposing thoughts and their implications (as well as the blind spots they reveal in our currently-held beliefs) that we truly learn&#8211;to do otherwise is to subject yourself as a captive of one man&#8217;s (or one group&#8217;s) &#8220;crude notions.&#8221; If you can&#8217;t handle reading anything that doesn&#8217;t echo what you already believe, then you either think you know everything (arrogance) or you have no desire for knowledge (foolishness). Either way, this blog will probably be nothing but an exercise in frustration for you.</p>
<p>That is all. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t you know our pastor has authority over you?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Pastoral authority&#8221; is invoked in support of all kinds of actions, events, and propositions. In more mundane uses, &#8220;pastoral authority&#8221; becomes a catchphrase signaling the need to acquire permission from the pastor to take action or make a public statement. Along these lines, you might hear someone say, &#8220;I disagree with Pastor Tom about this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Pastoral authority&#8221; is invoked in support of all kinds of actions, events, and propositions. In more mundane uses, &#8220;pastoral authority&#8221; becomes a catchphrase signaling the need to acquire permission from the pastor to take action or make a public statement. Along these lines, you might hear someone say, &#8220;I disagree with Pastor Tom about this issue, but I donâ€™t want to undermine his pastoral authority.&#8221; More extreme applications, of course, include the forceful silencing of dissent and the legitimization of unfortunate personality worship. In this vein, something like this is more likely: &#8220;Donâ€™t you know our pastor has authority over you?&#8221;</p>
<p>To be clear, in my criticism I do not take away from the responsibility of our local church pastors to shepherd our congregations. The apostles left us careful instructions regarding the need for us to recognize, honor, imitate, and submit to our leaders (1 Thess 5:12-13; 1 Tim 5:17; Heb 13:7, 17), as well as details regarding the characteristics that qualify and disqualify leaders from service (1 Tim 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-9).</p>
<p>Yet, if you survey the teaching of the NT epistles on the matter of elders, overseers, leaders, or shepherds, you will find no mention of &#8220;authority&#8221; or &#8220;exercising authority over&#8221; anyone. In fact, 1 Peter 5:3 contains explicit instruction for shepherds to oversee the people &#8220;not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.&#8221;</p>
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<p><strong>Source:</strong> <a href="http://sbcoutpost.com/who-should-%e2%80%9chave-authority-over-a-man%e2%80%9d/">SBCOutpost.com</a> (HT: <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/assembling/~3/139995076/anabaptist-politics-and-pastoral.html">Alan Knox</a>) </p>
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		<title>The Saints are Kings and Priests</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a severe violation of the adult conscience to treat the saints as children under the over-lordship of elders. The ultimate effect of treating the saints as children is that they will either remain children in their understanding as they submit to bondage, or they will rebel. Elders exercise appropriate authority as fathers within [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is a severe violation of the adult conscience to treat the saints as children under the over-lordship of elders. The ultimate effect of treating the saints as children is that they will either remain children in their understanding as they submit to bondage, or they will rebel. Elders exercise appropriate authority as fathers within their own households, but their role in the assembly is not as fathers and lords over children and servants, but as elder brothers in the faith and humble servants to the whole.</p>
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<p><strong>Source:</strong> Steve Atkerson, <a href="http://www.ntrf.org/articles/article_detail.php?PRKey=2">New Testament Church Leadership</a></p>
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		<title>What Makes for a Strong Leader?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then the Elder continued, &#8220;What if a truly strong leader is one who is un-threatened enough to actually, honestly listen to the input of those around them, precisely because (a) they are secure in their identity in Christ, and (b) they know they need the voices of others to adequately hear what God is saying [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Then the Elder continued, &#8220;What if a truly strong leader is one who is un-threatened enough to actually, honestly listen to the input of those around them, precisely because (a) they are secure in their identity in Christ, and (b) they know they need the voices of others to adequately hear what God is saying to the whole group? What if the &#8216;weak&#8217; leader is really the one who insists on his or her own personal vision, and is too threatened to consider the voices of anyone else?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe it takes more <em lang="es">cajones</em> to NOT insist on the leader&#8217;s &#8216;vision&#8217;, or &#8217;strategy&#8217;, and to trust that the Spirit speaks through the Body, hmm?&#8221;, he asked, gesturing with open hands.</p>
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<p><strong>Source:</strong> Robby Mac, <a href="http://www.robbymac.org/2007/07/through-looking-glass.html">Through The Looking-Glass</a></p>
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		<title>The Same Old Mocking&#8230; (Quote)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I mock is exactly the same thing that we find mocked in the pages of the New Testament&#8212;ecclesiastical stuffed-shirt pretentiousness, and an inability to maintain a sense of godly proportion. You know, camels and gnats, gold and altars, and justice and mercy and tithing from the spice rack.
(Source: Douglas Wilson, Reformed Catholicity)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What I mock is exactly the same thing that we find mocked in the pages of the New Testament&mdash;ecclesiastical stuffed-shirt <em>pretentiousness</em>, and an inability to maintain a sense of godly <em>proportion</em>. You know, camels and gnats, gold and altars, and justice and mercy and tithing from the spice rack.</p></blockquote>
<p>(<strong>Source:</strong> <a href="http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&#038;CategoryID=1&#038;BlogID=4067">Douglas Wilson, <em>Reformed Catholicity</em></a>)</p>
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		<title>Our Modern Way of Meeting (NTRF)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 18:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A buddy of mine pointed me to this house-church website, and I found quite the funny (because it&#8217;s so true) paraphrasing of the meeting regulations in :

How is it then, brethren? When ye come together, the pastor hath a doctrine, and the minister of music hath psalms. Let all things be done unto edifying. If [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A buddy of mine pointed me to this house-church website, and I found quite the funny (because it&#8217;s so true) paraphrasing of the meeting regulations in :<br />
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<p>How is it then, brethren? When ye come together, the pastor hath a doctrine, and the minister of music hath psalms. Let all things be done unto edifying. If anyone besides the pastor hath a doctrine, let him not speak; let him hold his peace. Let him sit in the pew, and face the back of the neck of the person which sitteth ahead of him. Let the people keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith church tradition. But if they will learn anything, let them ask their pastor after the service, for it is a shame for a layman to speak in the church. For the pastor, he hath a seminary degree, and the layman, he hath not so lofty a degree. If any man desire to remain a church member in good standing, let him acknowledge that what I write to you is the command of the denominational headquarters. But if any man ignore this, he shall be promptly escorted out the door by the ushers. Wherefore brothers, covet not to speak in the church. Let all things be done decently and in the order in which it hath been written in the church bulletin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ntrf.org/articles/article_detail.php?PRKey=11&#038;css=print">How to Have a New Testament Church Meeting</a></p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Ephesians 1:3</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 10:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Hebrews 10:23</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 10:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/58_hebrews_10_23.png' title='Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/58_hebrews_10_23.thumbnail.png' alt='Hebrews 10:23' /></a>]]></description>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Psalm 29:11</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 10:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Luke 6:35-36</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 10:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/42_luke_06_35-36.png' title='But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/42_luke_06_35-36.thumbnail.png' alt='Luke 6:35-36' /></a>]]></description>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: 1 Peter 4:12-13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 10:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: 1 Corinthians 13:4-6</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 10:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/46_1_corinthians_13_4-6.png' title='Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/46_1_corinthians_13_4-6.thumbnail.png' alt='1 Corinthians 13:4-6' /></a>]]></description>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: 1 John 4:18</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-1-john-418.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 10:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/62_1_john_4_18.png' title='There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/62_1_john_4_18.thumbnail.png' alt='1 John 4:18' /></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/62_1_john_4_18.png' title='There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/62_1_john_4_18.png' alt='1 John 4:18' /></a></p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Proverbs 18:24</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-proverbs-1824.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 10:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/20_proverbs_18_24.png' title='A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/20_proverbs_18_24.thumbnail.png' alt='Proverbs 18:24' /></a>]]></description>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Revelation 1:8</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-revelation-18.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 15:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/66_revelation_1_8.png' title='"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/66_revelation_1_8.thumbnail.png' alt='Revelation 1:8' /></a>]]></description>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Psalm 139:7-10</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-psalm-1397-10.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_139_07-10.png' title='Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there! If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_139_07-10.thumbnail.png' alt='Psalm 139:7-10' /></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_139_07-10.png' title='Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there! If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_139_07-10.png' alt='Psalm 139:7-10' /></a></p>
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		<title>Mini-Review: Future Men</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/mini-review-future-men.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 12:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wilson covers all the major concerns of shaping boys into real men: laziness, sex, secret sin, courtship, girls, friends, fights, school work, and sports to name a few. Each section is written with that &#8217;serrated edge&#8217; he is known for, so you need to read with a smile and not take offense if you are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wilson covers all the major concerns of shaping boys into real men: laziness, sex, secret sin, courtship, girls, friends, fights, school work, and sports to name a few. Each section is written with that &#8217;serrated edge&#8217; he is known for, so you need to read with a smile and not take offense if you are to gain from many of his good insights. &mdash;<a href="http://preacherthoughts.blogspot.com/2006/06/book-review-future-men.html">Paul W. Martin @ kerux noemata</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Interestingly, Wilson notes that the abandonment of the Psalms in worship means that the church has discarded a songbook, that is throughly masculine in its lyrics, in favour of the effeminate hymns of the 19th and 20th century. The result being that the church is dominated by females as men are put off attending divine worship. The author also has lots of helpful advice on how parents should instruct their boys with regard to work, sports, education, friendship, sex, courtship, fighting, bearing firearms and the use of money; which, all in all, makes for a very stimulating read. &mdash;<a href="http://reformedcovenanter.wordpress.com/2006/12/04/book-review-future-men/">Daniel Ritchie @ Reformed Covenanter</a></p></blockquote>
<p>This is a book on raising <em>boys?</em> Wow, I think I came away from reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1885767838/ref=nosim/travisseitlet-20"><em>Future Men</em></a> with more instruction on raising <em>myself!</em> Not that it was necessarily Wilson&#8217;s aim, but his lessons are of the sort that I need to put them into practice myself before I can raise my own boy in them. This one is so insightful that I need to read it again; there&#8217;s just too much to soak up in the first reading!</p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: 1 John 2:24-25</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-1-john-224-25.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/62_1_john_2_24-25.png' title='Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. And this is the promise that he made to us&#8212;eternal life.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/62_1_john_2_24-25.thumbnail.png' alt='1 John 2:24-25' /></a>]]></description>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: 2 Timothy 1:8-9</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-2-timothy-18-9.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 10:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/55_2_timothy_1_08-09.png' title='Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, nor of me his prisoner, but share in suffering for the gospel by the power of God, who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began....'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/55_2_timothy_1_08-09.thumbnail.png' alt='2 Timothy 1:8-9' /></a>]]></description>
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		<title>Mother&#8217;s Day Weekend</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 17:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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We had a really nice Mother&#8217;s Day weekend this year! On Saturday, we bundled up the kids and a picnic lunch and moseyed on over to Spring Lake Park. We&#8217;d only ever been to the &#8220;lake&#8221; side of it before, so the open grass and the quiet creek were wonderful. (More photos at Flickr.)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/travisseitler/tags/mothers+day+2007/" title="The Seitler Family's 2007 Mother's Day Photo Gallery"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/495135358_a83acc73dd.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Relaxing on Mother's Day Weekend" /></a></p>
<p>We had a really nice Mother&#8217;s Day weekend this year! On Saturday, we bundled up the kids and a picnic lunch and moseyed on over to <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&#038;ll=39.454387,-76.609039&#038;spn=0.010471,0.016286&#038;z=16&#038;om=1">Spring Lake Park</a>. We&#8217;d only ever been to the &#8220;lake&#8221; side of it before, so the open grass and the quiet creek were wonderful. (<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/travisseitler/tags/mothers+day+2007/">More photos at Flickr.</a>)</p>
<p>On Sunday we decided to pass on message #2 of <a href="http://www.chesapeakechurch.com/images/rotate/paving.jpg">Chesapeake&#8217;s building fund series</a> and instead visit a nearby congregation. (See, we&#8217;re really bad about driving 30 miles to attend Sunday services and not having a clue who the believers are within a 2-mile radius of our apartment.) <a href="http://www.timoniumumc.org/">Timonium UMC</a> got the short straw, so we went over there and checked things out.</p>
<p>Wow.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing for a church to think it&#8217;s okay for women to serve in pastoral roles&#8230; but I saw a number of appointed leaders in there yesterday morning, and not a single one was a man. (The men were either in deacon roles or just not there.) If that wasn&#8217;t enough of a shocker for me, they had the kids come up for a kiddie sermonette on Acts 16 where they were told that <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2016:11-15&#038;version=47">Lydia</a> had her husband and kids baptized and pastored a church in her home. Needless to say, Katie got some of Papa Bear&#8217;s personal commentary on that passage at lunchtime. Maybe I&#8217;ll post my thoughts on it later, but suffice it to say, I think there was no small part of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisegesis">eisegesis</a> in what was told to the kids.</p>
<p>The really nice part about visiting that church, though, is that we were back home by 11am (where we usually get back after 1pm). We couldn&#8217;t get over how much longer the day felt because of that, so we went driving around later, looking at houses for sale.</p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Psalm 33:6</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-psalm-336.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 10:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_033_06.png' title='By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, and by the breath of his mouth all their host.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_033_06.thumbnail.png' alt='Psalm 33:6' /></a>]]></description>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Galatians 1:10</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-galatians-110.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 10:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/48_galatians_1_10.png' title='For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/48_galatians_1_10.thumbnail.png' alt='Galatians 1:10' /></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class='votd-image' href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/48_galatians_1_10.png' title='For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/48_galatians_1_10.png' alt='Galatians 1:10' /></a></p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Psalm 3:3</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-psalm-33.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_003_03.png' title='But you, O LORD, are a shield about me, my glory, and the lifter of my head.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_003_03.thumbnail.png' alt='Psalm 3:3' /></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class='votd-image' href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_003_03.png' title='But you, O LORD, are a shield about me, my glory, and the lifter of my head.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/19_psalm_003_03.png' alt='Psalm 3:3' /></a></p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Jeremiah 31:3</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-jeremiah-313-2.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 10:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/24_jeremiah_31_03.png' title='The LORD appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/24_jeremiah_31_03.thumbnail.png' alt='Jeremiah 31:3' /></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/24_jeremiah_31_03.png' title='The LORD appeared to him from far away. I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore I have continued my faithfulness to you.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/24_jeremiah_31_03.png' alt='' /></a></p>
<p>Alright, ESV guys. I can understand a little bit of repeating, but with over 400 verses in the Daily Verse database, what&#8217;s with getting this one twice in the course of a week? <img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Mini-Review: Confessions of a Reformission Rev.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 20:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is much in this book that is edifying. It helped me understand Mark Driscoll and showed how he grew a megachurch in a largely unchurched city in only eight years. He is clearly a passionate, focused man who is genuinely seeking hard after God. He has much to offer the church. I wonder, though, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is much in this book that is edifying. It helped me understand Mark Driscoll and showed how he grew a megachurch in a largely unchurched city in only eight years. He is clearly a passionate, focused man who is genuinely seeking hard after God. He has much to offer the church. I wonder, though, how long his message will be heard as long as it is wrapped in a sometimes vulgar, always sarcastic, package. It may endear him to some, but it will surely alienate him from far more. &mdash;<a href="http://www.challies.com/archives/001863.php">Tim Challies @ Challies.com</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Driscoll seems very reflective</a> on the way his church runs. He writes about his epiphanies he has and how things in the church needs to change. He certainly is dynamic, not in his writing, probably in his speech, but more so in the way he kicks the church into movement. &mdash;<a href="http://www.mindfulmission.com/kevin.php/2006/06/01/confessions_of_a_reformission_rev_mark_d_5">Kevin @ Tension Treatises</a></p></blockquote>
<p>After <a href="http://travis.webseitler.com/2006/05/driscollgate-in-summary.html">the firestorm that erupted among Godbloggers last year over some of the contents of this book</a>, I&#8217;ve been following Mark Driscoll (and listening to his sermons via podcast). The guy who I used to know only as &#8220;Mark the Cussing Pastor&#8221; (thanks to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0785263705/ref=nosim/travisseitlet-20"><em>Blue Like Jazz</em></a>) is quite a character, but this book showed me just how much he&#8217;s gone through. This ain&#8217;t no spring chicken on the church growth scene; he&#8217;s perhaps been through fiercer battles than most small-town preachers will <em>ever</em> see. In and through all of that, he&#8217;s being forged into a pillar of the Church, mark my words.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what this book is all about: it&#8217;s an autobiographical take on Mark&#8217;s work with Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA. He walks us through the good an bad times he&#8217;s experienced during his tenure there. I&#8217;d say not only is this book great for pastors looking for some inspiration or encouragement, but church members would do well to read this and understand just how rough it can be to pastor a church.</p>
<p>Some people have complained about how Driscoll talks about some things in the book, but honestly? I consider the transparency in here a breath of fresh air&mdash;it&#8217;s a level of authenticity rarely reached by clergy, who all too often seem to prefer erring on the side of hypocrisy. I mean, the way I see it discretion is just plain <em>way overdone</em> among pastors these days. (It&#8217;s worse than the upper management in large corporations, where every little statement has to be scrutinized by a team of lawyers before it&#8217;s released to the public.) Driscoll just isn&#8217;t afraid of the potential backlash for telling it like it really is, and I respect him for that.</p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: 2 Thessalonians 3:5</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-2-thessalonians-35.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 10:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Hebrews 13:6</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-hebrews-136.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 10:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/58_hebrews_13_06.png' title='So we can confidently say, "The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me?"'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/58_hebrews_13_06.png' alt='Hebrews 13:6' /></a></p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Romans 12:2</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-romans-122.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 10:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/45_romans_12_02.jpg' title='Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/45_romans_12_02.jpg' alt='Romans 12:2' /></a></p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Psalm 9:7-8</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-psalm-97-8-2.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 10:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/19_psalm_009_07-08.jpg' title='But the LORD sits enthroned forever; he has established his throne for justice, and he judges the world with righteousness; he judges the peoples with uprightness.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/19_psalm_009_07-08.thumbnail.jpg' alt='Psalm 9:7-8' /></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="votd-image" href='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/19_psalm_009_07-08.jpg' title='But the LORD sits enthroned forever; he has established his throne for justice, and he judges the world with righteousness; he judges the peoples with uprightness.'><img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/19_psalm_009_07-08.jpg' alt='Psalm 9:7-8' /></a></p>
<p>Yup, it&#8217;s a repeat. Hey, they <em>said</em> verses are randomly chosen! <img src='http://travis.webseitler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Psalm 145:8</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-psalm-1458.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 10:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>iPod Daily Verse: Jeremiah 31:3</title>
		<link>http://travis.webseitler.com/2007/05/ipod-daily-verse-jeremiah-313.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 09:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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