2 thoughts on “John Piper is Bad”

1. What do you think of John Piper’s comments on the earth is billions of years…”Whatever science says it is, it is…”?

   “In verse 1, “In the beginning he made the heavens and the earth,” he makes everything. And then you go day by day and he’s preparing the land. He’s not bringing new things into existence; he’s preparing the land and causing things to grow and separating out water and earth. And then, when it’s all set and prepared, he creates and puts man there.

   So that has the advantage of saying that the earth is billions of years old if it wants to be—whatever science says it is, it is—but man is young, and he was good and he sinned. He was a real historical person, because Romans 5 says so, and so does the rest of the Bible.”

   http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/what-should-we-teach-about-creation

   This is were you get into the problem that you would have to believe that death and dying occurred before original sin of man and that suffering, and dying in the world wasn’t caused by man. If you try to mix evolution with the Bible, it will blow your theology apart.

   Exo 20:9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work,
   Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God.
   Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day.

   Jesus Christ said in Mark 10:6…”But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.” Here, Christ is saying that they were created at the beginning.

2. What do I think?

   1. I think I posted this a little over five years ago, so your question isn’t very timely;
   2. I think he’s being just as “fundamentalist” there as the Fundamentalists he says he can’t support — they’re just being dogmatic in different directions
   3. I think creation doesn’t “look old”, so much as it would have to be old according to current scientific theories;
   4. I think most people in this world have views I would disagree with, and it would be both shortsighted and arrogant of me to disassociate from them over those issues despite our agreement–and their wisdom–on other issues.

   Happy New Year!